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    Default Downlink Power congestion problem

    Hi,

    We have a problem with RRC rejects due to DL power in few sites. This happens during normal as well as peak traffic hours.
    The power usage is 40% to 50% with lot of PS and few CS users and suddenly the power usage spikes to 90% leading to RRC rejects.

    Node : E******* RNC 3820/ RBS 6000

    I have checked the maximumTransmissionPower and primarcyCpichPower settings. They are like any other normal cells with out having this problem.

    I have seen from the DL common power measurements from RBS the phenomenon of sudden surge in the power usage.

    How to go about this problem ?

    Any suggestions will be appreciated.

    Best Regards
    V

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    Default Re: Downlink Power congestion problem

    did you check IUB congestion and usage of CE for those sites.

    what doe it say??

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    Default Re: Downlink Power congestion problem

    Is HSDPA activated on those sites?

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    Default Re: Downlink Power congestion problem

    For instance, exactly after 1 second after the below data was taken, the Non HS TX power shoots above 90%

    dl-non-hs-tx-power ase-ul ase-dl code-tree-consumption sf8dl sf16dl sf32dl cm-users hs-users sf4ul sf8ul sf16ul
    62 58.35 25.06 33 0 0 1 1 17 1 0 4


    IUB congestion - Should i check form some utrancell counters for this ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rishi View Post
    did you check IUB congestion and usage of CE for those sites.

    what doe it say??

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    Default Re: Downlink Power congestion problem

    Yes Philippe, HSDPA is activated on the sites. I am talking about the DL Non-HS transmit power.


    Quote Originally Posted by Philippe View Post
    Is HSDPA activated on those sites?

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    Default Re: Downlink Power congestion problem

    Please check the following;

    1. Power Utilization trend
    2. CS/PS traffic trend
    3. Cell is overshooting
    4. Physical modification on the site (tilt etc)
    5. Number of HSDPA and Eul users
    6. Alarms / Hw (needless to say, am sure you must have checked)


    Please also check if any of the following power parameters were modified;

    1. pwrAdm
    2. pwrAdmOffset
    3. pwrOffset
    4. pwrHyst

    Please prepare a proper RNC wise/ Cell wise - Daily / hourly trend, will help you pin-point cells and identify hours where the problem is observed. Identify the day since this problem started, compare the parameter dump before and after for any inconsistencies.

    Thanks. Hope this helps.
    If you identify the real problem then please share, will help enhance our knowledge.

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    Default Re: Downlink Power congestion problem

    Check the RRC load !
    Last edited by epaange; 2012-01-05 at 09:48 PM

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    Default Re: Downlink Power congestion problem

    Hi friend,

    The problem is your maximumtotaloutputpower is limited for the RBS. Firstly connect to the RBS and check this parameter value via moshell(AMOS) by command "get . maxtot" it should be 60 which means your RUW is propagating 60W but if it is -1 means it is propagating 30W and because of that you have lack of power and will face admition triggered be careful exactly after change make a startable CV.

    PS: Check licnese in RBS does it installed? if it was in emergency unlocked mode and if now it expired now you can not change the mentioned parameter to 60


    Give feedback please for further guidance

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    Default Re: Downlink Power congestion problem

    If it's power congestion then you have the below actions to try:-

    - Reduce PCPICH power
    - Down tilt
    - Add extra RRU and introduce new carrier over it.

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    Default Re: Downlink Power congestion problem

    Hi All,

    thanks for the suggestions so far.

    all the sites that have these dl power problem are located near or very near to the train station.

    We also observed that DL PWR spike coincides with the increase in the usage of DL SF. So its potentiall R99 PS users who are responsible for the problem.

    Planning to restric the below SF codes in the cell and observe the Power problem.

    sf16Adm
    sf32Adm
    sf8Adm

    Any feedback will be appreciated.

    Regards
    V

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