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    Default Cell ID definition for 3G cells

    Dear All,

    Is there any specific procedure to allocate Cell Id on 3G cells?

    Please support

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    Default Re: Cell ID definition for 3G cells

    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherAlbertini View Post
    Dear All,

    Is there any specific procedure to allocate Cell Id on 3G cells?

    Please support

    Thanks

    CA
    In our Network we use policy like: first 4 digits this is site ID, last (5th digit) for cell ID. From 1 to 3 - first carrier, 4-6 second.

    For example: Site Id 1000 has 3 sectors with 2 carriers, it means we have 6 cells 10001, 10002, 10003,10004,10005, 10006.

    As i know Huawei and ZTE (may be another vendors too) has limitation in 65553 (or stuff like that).

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    Default Re: Cell ID definition for 3G cells

    For the networks I've worked on, we've used
    <WBTS id><WCEL LCR id>
    e.g. for WBTS-5598 sector-3 the CI/SAC would be 55983

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    Default Re: Cell ID definition for 3G cells

    Dears,

    This means that you have allocate a completely new range for the 3G sites. Is that correct? If not, how do you manage the cell Id's for the co-located 2G, 3G cells.

    We have started the deployment 3G, in the network I am working on and planning to use the following to identify 2G and 3G cells:

    a) 2G

    Ci= 10011 for example

    b) 3G

    CI = xx+ 2G CI where xx represents a 3G identifier per region.
    We will then have for that co-located cell:

    CI= 5510011 where 55 represent a specific region.

    What do you think about the proposed figure?

    Thanks to all for the feedback.

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    Default Re: Cell ID definition for 3G cells

    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherAlbertini View Post
    Dears,

    This means that you have allocate a completely new range for the 3G sites. Is that correct? If not, how do you manage the cell Id's for the co-located 2G, 3G cells.

    We have started the deployment 3G, in the network I am working on and planning to use the following to identify 2G and 3G cells:

    a) 2G

    Ci= 10011 for example

    b) 3G

    CI = xx+ 2G CI where xx represents a 3G identifier per region.
    We will then have for that co-located cell:

    CI= 5510011 where 55 represent a specific region.

    What do you think about the proposed figure?

    Thanks to all for the feedback.
    I think your policy is useful, but for me looks strange. I will try to explain why:

    At first - Huawei and ZTE (vendors, which we use on our Network) doesn't allow to configure cell more than 65553. It means, 5510011 impossible to create on RNC. I don't know, which equipment to you use, but i think every vendor has a limitation.

    Second - for which purposes do you need this definition? I mean for example if you will have the same Cell ID for 2G and 3G how is it possible to mix them?
    In Atoll (planning tool, which i use) we have different projects. In
    performance tool, i know which KPI's and for which Network (2G or 3G) reports i use.
    In addition for different technologies you use different LAC's. And it is easiest way, how to divide cell 2G\3G.

    I think, it is better to use experience of another operators and vendors. In addition you can ask advice from vendor, which supply equipment for you.

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    Default Re: Cell ID definition for 3G cells

    Thanks for the feedback

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    Default Re: Cell ID definition for 3G cells

    Could you please help me how to check definition of 3G cell in 3GMSC?

    10x

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    Default Re: Cell ID definition for 3G cells

    For cell id in our network we are using first 4 digits as Site identifier and the last digit as cell identifier, starting from 1 to 9. Suppose a site CAN001 has id is 2050, then its cell ids are named as:
    CAN001A/B/C : 20501, 20502, 20503
    CAN001X/Y/Z : 20504, 20505, 20506
    and for co-located 3G cells: 20507, 20508, 20509

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