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    Default Propogation Delay for overshooting cells

    Hi friends you can find the overshooting cells by calculating the Propagation Delay. Try to plot this graph.

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    Default Re: Propogation Delay for overshooting cells

    what's do you mean? yes absolutely we can using PropDelay to approximate overshooting cell using NASTAR tools then combining with SHO overhead to make complete analyze (ideal value : 30%-40%)

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    Default Re: Propogation Delay for overshooting cells

    Hi jamal

    Which plot are you talking for??

    Quote Originally Posted by jamalll2000 View Post
    Hi friends you can find the overshooting cells by calculating the Propagation Delay. Try to plot this graph.

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    Default Re: Propogation Delay for overshooting cells

    Quote Originally Posted by adewijaya View Post
    what's do you mean? yes absolutely we can using PropDelay to approximate overshooting cell using NASTAR tools then combining with SHO overhead to make complete analyze (ideal value : 30%-40%)

    How precise and accurate is propagation delay? What do you mean by combining SHO overhead?

    Please clarify as I have been pondering about this topic for awhile now.

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Propogation Delay for overshooting cells

    if your equipment is huawei you can use this counter : VS.LCS.OutCellCover.CellIdRtt

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    Default Re: Propogation Delay for overshooting cells

    Quote Originally Posted by tthach830 View Post
    How precise and accurate is propagation delay? What do you mean by combining SHO overhead?

    Please clarify as I have been pondering about this topic for awhile now.

    Thanks!
    dear when you have overshooting cells you will have bad quality & high SHO Overhead .

    * propagation delay in 3G = TA in 2G (you can get it in drive test by using nastar)
    * soft handover overhead = # of times where UE was in SHO state(more than one radio link)/# of times where UE was in connected mode(also can be calculated in DT)

    in 3G overshooting means both bad quality & resource wasting (not like 2G) . because when UE can decode the serving cell & the overshooting one , it will enter SHO state even though it's not in SHO area .

    hope it's useful

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    Default Re: Propogation Delay for overshooting cells

    Quote Originally Posted by zeezzoo View Post
    dear when you have overshooting cells you will have bad quality & high SHO Overhead .

    * propagation delay in 3G = TA in 2G (you can get it in drive test by using nastar)
    * soft handover overhead = # of times where UE was in SHO state(more than one radio link)/# of times where UE was in connected mode(also can be calculated in DT)

    in 3G overshooting means both bad quality & resource wasting (not like 2G) . because when UE can decode the serving cell & the overshooting one , it will enter SHO state even though it's not in SHO area .

    hope it's useful

    how u can get propagation delay for drive test from Nastar...?! not possible at all!

    BR

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    Default Re: Propogation Delay for overshooting cells

    Quote Originally Posted by zeezzoo View Post
    dear when you have overshooting cells you will have bad quality & high SHO Overhead .

    * propagation delay in 3G = TA in 2G (you can get it in drive test by using nastar)
    * soft handover overhead = # of times where UE was in SHO state(more than one radio link)/# of times where UE was in connected mode(also can be calculated in DT)

    in 3G overshooting means both bad quality & resource wasting (not like 2G) . because when UE can decode the serving cell & the overshooting one , it will enter SHO state even though it's not in SHO area .

    hope it's useful
    So if my site overshooting;however has SHO overhead of 30% and SSHO of 5%; should I leave it alone?

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    Default Re: Propogation Delay for overshooting cells

    Quote Originally Posted by tthach830 View Post
    So if my site overshooting;however has SHO overhead of 30% and SSHO of 5%; should I leave it alone?
    no you should fix the overshooting . because overshooting increases ur rssi ==> bad Ec/No .

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    Unhappy Re: Propogation Delay for overshooting cells

    Quote Originally Posted by agenov View Post
    how u can get propagation delay for drive test from Nastar...?! not possible at all!

    BR
    sorry ... my mistake

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