Any tools can show individual user throughput, special service throughput,...?

[linhhy]

Hi,

I'd like to see more detail about user performance in our network. Do anyone know, does it has any tools can show individual user throughput, special service throughput,... in WCDMA, LTE network?

Thank for your advice.

[qaqa]

Core probes can do that, i.e. compute the throughput per session/user

[linhhy]

Core probes can do that, i.e. compute the throughput per session/user

Thank for your advice. But I confuse how Probes can do that. Because to calculate more accurate for throughput we need correctly total data is sent and how long does it spend? in radio part, only NodeB know that, but it does not have any information about UE information. How about core part? Does it have exactly time (TTI usage) does the UE spend for download?

[Tulipa]

Hi,

for wcdma you can check the following counters :


67202894
VS.HSDPA.MeanChThroughput (http://localhost:7890/pages/31187648/05/31187648/05/resources/mbsc/m-perf/Mt-29217.html)
Mean Downlink Throughput of single HSDPA MAC-d Flows for Cell
Earlier than BSC6900 V900R011


67189840
VS.HSDPA.MeanChThroughput.TotalBytes (http://localhost:7890/pages/31187648/05/31187648/05/resources/mbsc/m-perf/Mt-31111.html)
Number of Total Bytes Sent in Downlink of HSDPA MAC-d Flow for Cell
Earlier than BSC6900 V900R011


hope it helps you
BR,

[linhhy]

Hi,

for wcdma you can check the following counters :


67202894
VS.HSDPA.MeanChThroughput (http://localhost:7890/pages/31187648/05/31187648/05/resources/mbsc/m-perf/Mt-29217.html)
Mean Downlink Throughput of single HSDPA MAC-d Flows for Cell
Earlier than BSC6900 V900R011


67189840
VS.HSDPA.MeanChThroughput.TotalBytes (http://localhost:7890/pages/31187648/05/31187648/05/resources/mbsc/m-perf/Mt-31111.html)
Number of Total Bytes Sent in Downlink of HSDPA MAC-d Flow for Cell
Earlier than BSC6900 V900R011


hope it helps you
BR,
Many thanks. But I need more like this. I'd like to see user performance for each user, not average between many user. How someone suffer network performance when he suft web, download ftp, load a video,.etc..

Any tool can do that?

[ltecity]

Product like AriesoGEO, TEOCO can give you session throughput and User throughput also.

[linhhy]

Product like AriesoGEO, TEOCO can give you session throughput and User throughput also.

Many thanks. Could you share some documents what description how the tool work?

[dekili]

Product like AriesoGEO, TEOCO can give you session throughput and User throughput also.

Israeli Nice also has a tool for such things but it looks like you are looking for data mining platform to follow individual user, analyse services and performance on individual basis and then use that for network optimization. Such solution would sit in a core for sure.
cheers

[ltecity]

This product basically working on events from GPEH, RPMO and CTR.

In NSN it will work on Megamon and Huawei it will work on U2000/M2000 traces.

You can find good cases http://www.finetopix.com/showthread.php?34924-Arieso-trainning&highlight=arieso

http://www.finetopix.com/showthread.php?33735-Arieso-WorkShops-2012&highlight=arieso

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[justdream]

Fantastic, so who has Ariesos installer and ****

[electron]

Fantastic, so who has Ariesos installer and ****

It is server based application

[ltecity]

Its not a simple product.

Standalone Windows server require and 24*7 data feed.

Its million $ product.

You can check http://www.viavisolutions.com/en/products/product-families/ariesogeo

http://www.teoco.com/

[linhhy]

Its not a simple product.

Standalone Windows server require and 24*7 data feed.

Its million $ product.

You can check http://www.viavisolutions.com/en/products/product-families/ariesogeo

http://www.teoco.com/

It's quite expensive of course. We've used Arisogeo, but its not totally as we expected. Now I'm trying to find another solution. Thank for your help.
Who can share your experience about some expert tools

[DJ Download]

We have a plan to trial AriesoGeo, could you share your experience why the tool is not completely as you expected?


It's quite expensive of course. We've used Arisogeo, but its not totally as we expected. Now I'm trying to find another solution. Thank for your help.
Who can share your experience about some expert tools

[qaqa]

Hi Guys,
I see some confusions in the discussions carried above. I am trying to clarify some items below:

1- throughput per user or throughput per session ==> natively, this is available at the core. in LTE for example you just need your probes to hook on S1 (MME and U) and S6a to be able to measure, for each IMSI, how much packets sent and for how long. than you can compute your instantaneous throughput per user. for sure this will not mirror exactly the throughput at the RAN side, due to the meany repetition mechanisms we have at the RRC/MAC/PHY layers for error correction, but it is indeed your Application layer throughput (TCP). examples of core probes that are able to give the user throughput include: ALU Wireless Network Guardian (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5OsDQIyDQ0) or teh Guavus Net Reflex (ex Neuralitic;s SevenFlow) or Polystar.

2- concerning RAN probes (or soft-probe) like areso, Tektronix.. this guys use the data provided by the MNS. i.e., if deployed in a Huawei RAN they will use the PCHR/CHR or trace server data, if hooked on Nokia, they will use Meamon/Megaplex and the same for other vendors. They limited on what is available from the data exported by the NMS. if those tables contain the Layer-2 information, i.e., related to the scheduler you will be able to compute the throughput by measuring per second how many bits were sent on how much time. unfortunately this kind of data is not available for most vendors.

3- a third approach if you have the two solutions above but with the RAN soft-probe not able to get the throughput information, you can correlate the data from the two sources using a big data analytics tool and estimate your user throughput for RF side.

@DJ, till now AresoGEO is a pure Geolocation solution with limited analytical capabilities. as far as I know they were working on improving their tool by including data analytics module as well as creating API to enable the tool to connect to other databases.

hope this helps.

[linhhy]

Hi Guys,
I see some confusions in the discussions carried above. I am trying to clarify some items below

hope this helps.

Thank for very useful information. Can you share any experience about core'probes