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Thread: No PDCH in overlaid cell(1800) when BCCH is in underlaid(900) for concentric cell

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    Default No PDCH in overlaid cell(1800) when BCCH is in underlaid(900) for concentric cell

    Dear all, I have concentric cells in my network with BCCH in 900(overlaid cell) and in the overlaid subcell is DCS-1800. I have noticed that there are no PDCH allocated in the DCS-1800 subcell which is the overlaid subcell whereas PDCH only get allocated in GSM-900. Could you tell me what is the possible reason for this? BR, Bilal

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    Default Re: No PDCH in overlaid cell(1800) when BCCH is in underlaid(900) for concentric cell

    Hi
    the channels used during CS or PS setup phase (CCCH/SDCCH/PDCH) should have same coverage area, other wise access failure will occur
    after setup is complete the mobile can be assigned to TCH in less coverage area (overlaid) if it's closed to the site

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    Default Re: No PDCH in overlaid cell(1800) when BCCH is in underlaid(900) for concentric cell

    Even after assignment I do not see any PDCH in the overlaid subcell.

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    Default Re: No PDCH in overlaid cell(1800) when BCCH is in underlaid(900) for concentric cell

    Hi
    Have you try to config PDCH in DCS-1800? It might be about license issue. Some operator not buy license for both(900&1800) if they can share/balance traffic.

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    Default Re: No PDCH in overlaid cell(1800) when BCCH is in underlaid(900) for concentric cell

    some operateors use the 1800MHs cell only for CS traffic, kind of CS traffic vacum cleaner, the 900MHz cell carries the PS traffic, better indoor coverage, propagation, provides better coverage in long distance, and the remaining CS traffic on areas, where the 1800MHz cell can't cover

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    Default Re: No PDCH in overlaid cell(1800) when BCCH is in underlaid(900) for concentric cell

    Dear,
    Configure IUOCHNTRAN "Dynamic Channel Conversion Parameter of Concentric Cell" to CONVERT2(UL first and convert allowed), but this is only available after Huawei BSS13. Note it might increase TBF drop rate highly.

    I hope it was useful info.

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    Default Re: No PDCH in overlaid cell(1800) when BCCH is in underlaid(900) for concentric cell

    Dear bilal,
    Do confirm two things.
    1.whats your carrier and dcs arfcn range used in network.
    2. Have you defined sdcch on dcs in your network?

    Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

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    Default Re: No PDCH in overlaid cell(1800) when BCCH is in underlaid(900) for concentric cell

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    Default Re: No PDCH in overlaid cell(1800) when BCCH is in underlaid(900) for concentric cell

    Even if i define sdcch on dcs1800 it does not take any sdcch traffic and 1800 also does not take any data traffic.

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    Default Re: No PDCH in overlaid cell(1800) when BCCH is in underlaid(900) for concentric cell

    Hi

    Is the DCS band allocated with A-Bis resources for Data?

    Rgds
    Plannerguy

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