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2009-10-14, 11:02 PM
Now i have problem with test TRX_Quality,
I want test BCCH 1 mn and TCH 1mn but i try a lot call setup can not first time when i make call show BCCH and TCH show BCCH but 1s TCH change to frequency TCH can all help me what should i do can test BCCH 1mn and TCH 1mn

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RF engineer
2009-10-15, 02:33 AM
you have to disable hopping and then make frequency lock .
BR
RF

eyaOpti_guy
2009-10-15, 05:06 AM
Dear TEMS, your cell is configured with hopping disabled, so you will never be able to test the two TRXs at the same time unless you configured them as one channel group and enabled hopping.
Otherwise you on the light load hours with hopping disabled you will be assigned to the same TRX frequently "this is due to the channel allocation algorithm", and may be you will be lucky on the busy hour and get an assignment on the other TRX, or you can try modifying your channel assignment algorithm for the drive test period.
PS: please let me know the vendor of your site, may I can help you with that.

TEMS
2009-10-15, 11:21 AM
Dear TEMS, your cell is configured with hopping disabled, so you will never be able to test the two TRXs at the same time unless you configured them as one channel group and enabled hopping.
Otherwise you on the light load hours with hopping disabled you will be assigned to the same TRX frequently "this is due to the channel allocation algorithm", and may be you will be lucky on the busy hour and get an assignment on the other TRX, or you can try modifying your channel assignment algorithm for the drive test period.
PS: please let me know the vendor of your site, may I can help you with that.

how can disabled hopping (do in TEMS investigation or at BSC or OMC)
pl explain to me clearly

many thank

TEMS
2009-10-15, 11:39 AM
you have to disable hopping and then make frequency lock .
BR
RF
thank you very much for share idea but in my network not use hopping it use
configuration (S222) can you help me about this

many thank

RF engineer
2009-10-15, 05:33 PM
thank you very much for share idea but in my network not use hopping it use
configuration (S222) can you help me about this

many thank
you can simply just make (lock ARFCN) in TEMS on each frequency. if you can not you have to switch off one TRX and then make test if you suspect Hardware problem .
BR
RF

yannick
2009-10-15, 08:38 PM
Now i have problem with test TRX_Quality,
I want test BCCH 1 mn and TCH 1mn but i try a lot call setup can not first time when i make call show BCCH and TCH show BCCH but 1s TCH change to frequency TCH can all help me what should i do can test BCCH 1mn and TCH 1mn

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Hi, please try this:
1- Click on Icon Equipment Properties or F8 (if doesn't work, you must select MS1 on SELECTED EQUIPMENT cause I see in your snapshot you selected PS1 situated at left under FILE in TEMS menu)
2- You get New window "Mobile Properties....", choose "GSM Dedicated Mode"
3- Select a "Fonction" you have 3 choices Normal, Prevent HO, Target HO. In your case select "TARGET HO"
4- In "source channel" list select frequecy of BCCH cell you need to lock ON and add it by click on ">". Click Aply or OK to proceed.
5- You are now locked on BCCH frequency, MS can't do HO.
6- To lock on TCH repeat step 2 to 4 but choose ARFCN of needed TCH.
To disable all chages you Click on "Reset" see step 2

Equipment Properties provides several settings, you can prevent HO, you can bypass barred cell, you can camp on needed cell (idle mode) and .....
Hope this will be helpful for you.
BR

alibushehri
2009-10-16, 02:48 PM
thank you very much for share idea but in my network not use hopping it use
configuration (S222) can you help me about this

many thank


Dear. if you don't have a hopping in your network, try to use GSM Channel Verification, under Control menu.

BR//

yannick
2009-10-17, 12:22 AM
I need to know how I can insert image to make explanation above more clear. Thanks