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mohyedeen_alkousy
2011-12-03, 07:14 AM
please any one has activated this feature to share his experience
Paging coordination give the mobile the ability to receive CS paging messages while the it's in packet transfer mode via PACCH channel
is it possible to activate without enabling Gs interface between MSC and SGSN?

wolverine
2011-12-03, 08:17 PM
Hi, yes we are using this feature. There is not much to it really. The functionality purely resides on the BSC so there is no need for the Gs interface. All the BSC does is keep track of which IMSIs are in a GPRS data session and if a paging message is received from the MSC with that IMSI, it maps the paging message on the PACCH. It is obviously very good, as it minimises missed paging while UEs are in an active GPRS session.

Ben0723
2011-12-03, 10:39 PM
use this feature u need to reckon your GSL load !!!This is important!!
and remember your network must on NMO II (NMO III when u have master pdch)
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aygo
2012-02-04, 03:35 AM
Hi experts

is there anyony have a document about GPRS DTM and Paging Coordination implementation, vendor by E******* G10B and Huawei GBSS12.
tests and the impact on the network, examples of the practice
thanks before
aygo

s52d
2012-02-04, 05:35 AM
Hi, yes we are using this feature. There is not much to it really. The functionality purely resides on the BSC so there is no need for the Gs interface. All the BSC does is keep track of which IMSIs are in a GPRS data session and if a paging message is received from the MSC with that IMSI, it maps the paging message on the PACCH. It is obviously very good, as it minimises missed paging while UEs are in an active GPRS session.

Ah, you need some "optional features" both on PS and CS core.
Nothing to do really: just activate licenses.

Main benefit: smartphone users on BSS can receive calls while they are PS connected (mostly not even being
aware of it). No statistically significant change in paging stats: only noticeable decrease is with
"missed call notification SMSes"

Simple summary: works.
We had zero problems with activating, we never heard any complain.
BTW, for full DTM you just turn it on per cell and enjoy stats. No stats for paging coordination.

BR
s52d

BALKY
2012-02-04, 06:36 PM
Yes, you can activate with additional features depends of your network vendor...
What is your vendor?
BR,

paali
2012-02-04, 06:45 PM
is it possible to activate without enabling Gs interface between MSC and SGSN?

aygo
2012-02-07, 01:36 AM
hi

I found a theme:
http://www.finetopix.com/showthread.php?20478-How-to-implement-GPRS-Dual-Transfer-Mode-to-existing-network&p=139927#post139927
but I do not know how to test ((

E / / / says that the essential features
• FAJ 121 611/1 Dual Transfer Mode (BSS)
• FAJ 121 493/1 Dual Transfer Mode for GSM (MSC)
• FAJ 121 565/1 Dual Transfer Mode (SGSN)
it will only work with FAJ 121 611/1 Dual Transfer Mode (BSS)?
Please share your experiences
thanks
aygo

aygo
2012-02-07, 02:02 AM
is it possible to activate without enabling Gs interface between MSC and SGSN?

Yes it possible to activate without enabling Gs interface between MSC and SGSN

aygo
2012-02-07, 02:10 AM
Yes, you can activate with additional features depends of your network vendor...
What is your vendor?
BR,

E / / /
FAJ 121 611/1 Dual Transfer Mode (BSS)
Dependency:
• FAJ 121 493/1 Dual Transfer Mode for GSM (MSC)
• FAJ 121 565/1 Dual Transfer Mode (SGSN)

Huawei
GMIS000DTM00 GBFD-114151 DTM
Dependency: MS CN
impact:
"This feature and the following features are mutually exclusive:
GBFD-114001 Extended Cell
GBFD-116201 Network-Controlled Cell Reselection (NC2)
"

GMISC11DTM00 GBFD-119403 Class11 DTM
Dependency: MS CN
impact:
"This feature depends on the following features:
GBFD-114151 DTM
GBFD-119401 EDA

"

GMISHMCDTM00 GBFD-119404 HMC DTM
Dependency: MS CN
impact:
"This feature depends on the following features:
GBFD-114101 DTM
GBFD-119401 EDA
GBFD-119402 MS High multislot classes
"

GMIS0BSSPC00 GBFD-119305 BSS Paging Coordination
Dependency: MS

aygo
2012-02-07, 02:37 PM
hi

I found documents on the implementation of the DTM at the Nokia
no pass
If its useful please give rep!

aygo
2012-02-10, 02:26 AM
hi

I found documents on the implementation of the DTM at the ALU
no pass
If its useful please give thanks & rep!

aygo
2012-02-11, 04:33 PM
hi

I found documents on the feature DTM at the Huawei
no pass
If its useful please give thanks & rep!