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f1cy
2008-12-13, 02:48 AM
Hii friend,

This is E1 Calculation Base on Radio Configuration of Cell.


BR//
f1cy

hassen
2008-12-13, 05:01 AM
Hii friend,

This is E1 Calculation Base on Radio Configuration of Cell.


BR//
f1cy
what about LAPD ,configuration 4/4/4 at minimum require 3 ts 64kb/s

1 site 4+4+4 = 27 ts

f1cy
2008-12-13, 07:47 PM
what about LAPD ,configuration 4/4/4 at minimum require 3 ts 64kb/s

1 site 4+4+4 = 27 ts

As i know,
1 TRX = 2 ts
12 TRX = 24 ts
1 E1 = 32 ts

If 1 site config 4/4/4 = 12 TS, need 1E1 star 31
CMIW

cekerayam
2008-12-26, 05:21 PM
As i know,
1 TRX = 2 ts
12 TRX = 24 ts
1 E1 = 32 ts

If 1 site config 4/4/4 = 12 TS, need 1E1 star 31
CMIW

you can configure 15 TRX with only 1E1, using Abis optimization technique. i will send the document separately.

cekerayam
2008-12-26, 05:34 PM
what about LAPD ,configuration 4/4/4 at minimum require 3 ts 64kb/s

1 site 4+4+4 = 27 ts

Hi,
1 E1 = 32 Time Slot. 1 timeslot will be used by Link management (Ts 0).

12 TRX = 2x12 Ts = 24 Ts
12 TRX need 12x32 Kbps (0.5 Ts) = 6 Ts <--LAPD/TRX Signalling
12 TRX need 12x16 Kbps (0.25Ts) = 1 Ts <--- BCF Signalling

Total = 24 Ts+6Ts+0.25Ts = 31 TS equal to 1E1.

We can configure 15 TRX using 1E1 (using Abis Optimization technique).

tks

f1cy
2008-12-26, 08:53 PM
you can configure 15 TRX with only 1E1, using Abis optimization technique. i will send the document separately.
can you share Abis optimization technique, thx alot bro :D

hassen
2008-12-26, 11:39 PM
what about LAPD ,configuration 4/4/4 at minimum require 3 ts 64kb/s

1 site 4+4+4 = 27 ts

TRXs/site--- --------------Time slot for signaling


1 TRX, no concentration --- 1
2 TRXs, concentration 2:1--- 1
3 TRXs, concentration 3:1--- 1
4 TRXs, concentration 4:1 ---1
...................................................................................

Time slots for traffic--- Time slots per TRX, total
2 ---------------------------3
4 ---------------------------2.5
6 ---------------------------2.33
8----- ----------------------2.25


It means 4 TRXs, concentration 4:1(0.25) =>2.25*4=9
configuration 4+4+4 need 9 * 3 = 27
ie 27 Time slot 64Kbit/s

The benefit of LAPD concentration is a reduced number of required physical links between the BSC and the RBS
LAPD concentration is recommended to be used for RBS sites with 2 TRXs or more per cell when traffic signalling is not too high.
Examples of transmission savings assumes no use of CS 3/4 or EGPRS, i.e. no use of 64 kbit/s Abis paths per BPC



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Hassen

ghassen
2009-01-08, 08:26 AM
it depend from manufucturer techniques for pcm configuration and also from which codec scheme are used on the air interface when you are using gprs or edge and this is what we call flexible abis alocation strategie and it is not relevant for all equipment it's different from nokia side to siemens
example : speech
1 trx to 2 trx = 1 lapd at 16 kb/S
more than 2 trx at least 1 lapd 64 kb/s

faib
2009-01-08, 01:19 PM
yup it varies from vendor to vendor , like in

a) Motrolla they use their own interface " MAbis" and you configure RSL per site basis rather than per TRX :) ( interesting )

b) Alcatel use different Multiplexing schemes for RSL mapping per TRX basis eg 16k Static multiplexing, 16K statistical multiplexing , 64 k statistical multiplexing , no multiplexing where OML is configured on per site basis (as usual mentioned in GSM specs )

c) Siemens , Nortel, Nokia , Huawei use RSL per TRX and OML per site basis ..

well FOR EDGE , GPRS your Abis planning is required , like in Alcatel with B8 version if you are configured MCS9 on whole TRX then 1 TIME SLOT will be mapped on 4.8 X 1= 4.8 NIBBLES ( where 1 TS on Abis = 4 Nibbles )

well in new version like B9 , B10 of Alcatel they have introduced " Flexible Sharing of Abis resources " per site basis and you will find same features in SIEMENS , Huawei etc etc


i try to explain TRX MAPPING on LAPD channels as per my best knowledge

correct me if i m wrong cuz we all in the phase of learning

Regards,
Faib

cekerayam
2009-01-08, 10:32 PM
can you share Abis optimization technique, thx alot bro :D

Hi,
As promised, attached is some slide about abis optimization. actually, its depend on vendor how to configure abis optimization. this is just for your review.

kamnikot
2009-01-26, 11:52 PM
Thanks pal for the share

miro
2009-01-30, 10:48 AM
i thinks these Docs clears thing up

papanyajosh
2009-01-30, 03:43 PM
please help me, how to download file of each posting ?

ThePyramid
2009-01-30, 09:08 PM
Thanks ,man.

ThePyramid
2009-01-30, 09:11 PM
Hi,
1 E1 = 32 Time Slot. 1 timeslot will be used by Link management (Ts 0).

12 TRX = 2x12 Ts = 24 Ts
12 TRX need 12x32 Kbps (0.5 Ts) = 6 Ts <--LAPD/TRX Signalling
12 TRX need 12x16 Kbps (0.25Ts) = 1 Ts <--- BCF Signalling

Total = 24 Ts+6Ts+0.25Ts = 31 TS equal to 1E1.

We can configure 15 TRX using 1E1 (using Abis Optimization technique).

tks
Thanks ,man.

ThePyramid
2009-01-30, 09:11 PM
Hi,
As promised, attached is some slide about abis optimization. actually, its depend on vendor how to configure abis optimization. this is just for your review.
Thanks ,man.

papov
2009-02-09, 07:56 PM
hello, i'm new here and i can't download the attachments can u up load it
thanks in advance

diggs
2009-02-09, 08:25 PM
What a wealth of knowledge in just one thread. Thanks guys!

edmond
2009-11-07, 12:31 AM
Hii friend,

This is E1 Calculation Base on Radio Configuration of Cell.


BR//
f1cy

It very useful doc can you please upload for rapidshare, i will really appreciate or send to my email adress "hektornew@gmail.com"
Thanks in advance

vitchi
2010-02-27, 04:33 AM
is that someone can help me because I can't download the attached file
tnx

taomomteling
2010-03-10, 11:25 PM
Here the dimensioning rule of the BSS part for ALU technology (Abis interface in cluded at page 54),

Enjoy it.

Cheers,

Abderrahmane,

taomomteling
2010-03-10, 11:28 PM
Here the dimensioning rule of the BSS part for ALU technology (Abis interface in cluded at page 54),

Enjoy it.

Cheers,

Abderrahmane,

Abis Allocation result in xls file:

http://www.4shared.com/file/238255806/12f5ebd6/Abis_TS_Allocation.html

If you want to add thanks and reputation i'll not say NOOOOOOO,


Cheers,

Abderrahmane,

boneshaker
2010-03-23, 05:06 PM
Abis Allocation result in xls file:

http://www.4shared.com/file/238255806/12f5ebd6/Abis_TS_Allocation.html

If you want to add thanks and reputation i'll not say NOOOOOOO,


Cheers,

Abderrahmane,

thanks for this share bro.

vitchi
2010-03-23, 11:17 PM
god job taomomteling

chiku
2010-04-20, 10:11 PM
good docs
thanks and rep added

paboya
2010-04-21, 11:00 AM
depend on ur vendor... ??
Each Vendor have a calculation for E1 need..


what about LAPD ,configuration 4/4/4 at minimum require 3 ts 64kb/s

1 site 4+4+4 = 27 ts

Cafumana
2010-04-22, 07:54 PM
Thanks in advance

SCHERIFFHELMY
2010-04-22, 09:58 PM
Dear F1cy
E1 config is affected by 3G traffic uploading
Have you docs for this

best regards

SCHERIFFHELMY
2010-04-22, 10:03 PM
Hi friends

Attached GPRS opt process

hoping it would be useful

SCHERIFFHELMY
2010-04-22, 10:05 PM
May anybody upload E1 config upon 4shared

best regards

sammy
2010-04-23, 05:01 PM
Thank you for your message

nhato
2010-05-05, 06:55 AM
Hii friend,

This is E1 Calculation Base on Radio Configuration of Cell.


BR//
f1cy

Is an excel file???....

BR

Nhato

sammy
2010-05-05, 03:45 PM
Thank, that is great

zee86
2010-07-21, 02:15 AM
Hi friends

Attached GPRS opt process

hoping it would be useful

Hi expert I need your help
In UK Vodafone is using ALU equipment can some one tell me which ALU transmission equipment they are using and which 3G BTS and RNC

kamy
2010-07-21, 03:25 AM
Hi expert I need your help
In UK Vodafone is using ALU equipment can some one tell me which ALU transmission equipment they are using and which 3G BTS and RNC

AMU and ADMU, i think

zee86
2010-07-21, 06:27 PM
AMU and ADMU, i think

Bro you have doc for AMU and ADMU
plz share it i need these doc