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verylikeblue
2010-09-19, 05:32 PM
As you know,many contories use GSM-R in The high-speed rail to control the train.there only 2-3 2-watt. testing mobile and 8-watt. terminals used in this market all over the world,the 8-watt. terminals are: MRM(without trace function),Selex RMM2320(have trace option) and triorail TTS_TRC-3(have trace option).GSM-R is midfied from GSM to fit high-speed rail requirments,add some unique functions,such as VGCS/VBS. And China Mobile and Unicom will optimize their network on high-speed train passing by.It is rather a hard problem because of the speed,beijing-shanghai high-speed rail-way will be 380KM/h.

The band in europe is as below:
Frequency Band Designation
MS – TX
MS – RX
R – GSM Band
876 - 915 MHz
921 - 960 MHz
E - GSM Band
880 - 915 MHz
925 - 960 MHz
P - GSM Band
890 - 915 MHz
935 - 960 MHz


The band in China is as below:
Frequency Band Designation
MS – TX
MS – RX
R – GSM Band
885-- 889MHz
930 - 934 MHz
E - GSM Band
880 - 915 MHz
925 - 960 MHz
P - GSM Band
890 - 915 MHz
935 - 960 MHz

s52d
2010-09-19, 06:59 PM
Interesting.

So in China, standard GSM equpimnet can be use (with modified SW),
while in Europe dedicated GSM-R radio equipment is needed.
In short: Huawey/ZTE is useless in Europe for GSM-R.

Few questions:
- how is higher speed covered? Terminal specifications to fight doppler? No power control?
- Is there some eqipment sharing with existing GSM networks (beside sites, power etc)?
- is there anything radio specific, or all changes are in core network (additional functionality)
- are other GSM-R networks (Africa, Asia) using EUropean GSM-R frequencies?

BR
s52d

verylikeblue
2010-09-19, 07:30 PM
Huawei get many projects in Europe,Aisaand Southen America ets. they use the standard European GSM-R frequencies(876 - 915 MHz,921 - 960 MHz).but Australia maybe will be GSM1800.

ZTE GSM-R project in Russa is aslo used standard EUropean GSM-R frequencies.

China GSM-R is used E-GSM band,But I think all the function are same as
standard European GSM-R.

China Mobile,Unicom and telecom will share the BS with the railway's.

And all the radio specific maybe obey the China mobile's.

Train drivers use 8-watt teminal as control commands channel through GSM CSD service. It is so callled ETCS-2 in EUropean and CTCS-3 in China if the train is running at 350KM/H.

cdmauser
2010-09-24, 04:37 AM
"Huawei get many projects in Europe,Aisaand Southen America"

Could you please name any GSM-R customer that Huawei got in Europe? Because NSN and Kapsch(formerly Nortel) built all networks there.

verylikeblue
2010-09-25, 11:50 AM
u could get some customers from below news.I think these projects will mainly use Huawei's GSM-R networks.

波兰等国希望中国参与其高铁项目的合作

  据《环球企业家》报道:目前,波兰,美国、俄罗斯、巴西、沙特等国家已明确表示,希望中国参与其高速铁路项目的合作。由中国铁路工程总公司承揽的委内瑞拉迪纳科-阿纳科高铁项目正在按计划实施,由中国铁路建设总公司承揽的土耳其安卡拉-伊斯坦布尔高铁项目也已进入实施阶段。
  《环球企业家》获知的最新消息是,中国铁道部已与通用电气和美国加州政府达成初步合作协议,而南车集团将与通用电气组建一家合资公司,为一条位于美国加州的高铁铁路提供相关技术和设备。这条从旧金山到洛杉矶再到阿纳海姆的高速铁路线全长465英里,计划在2020年投入使用。美国加州高速铁路管理局计划为此投资430亿美元。

中国铁建联合其他企业竞标巴西高铁铁路网 
2010-07-30 10:38:52 来源:证券网 浏览次数:14 网友评论 0 条 【证券网】(记者 周莉&吴静)7月28日,中国铁道部国际合作司黄鹤平处长在接受记者电话采访时表示,巴西政府于10日前正式公开巴西高铁招标文件,该项目截标期为2010年12月。中方由铁道部联合中国最大的铁路施工企业之一——中国铁建(601186.SH,01186.HK)参与竞标该项目。他进一步表示,目前中国铁建正在准备招标文件,并与世界其他企业合作组建投标联合体。
  中国铁建联合其他企业竞标巴西高铁

  【证券网】(记者 周莉&吴静)7月28日,中国铁道部国际合作司黄鹤平处长在接受记者电话采访时表示,巴西政府于10日前正式公开巴西高铁招标文件,该项目截标期为2010年12月。中方由铁道部联合中国最大的铁路施工企业之一——中国铁建(601186.SH,01186.HK)参与竞标该项目。

  他进一步表示,目前中国铁建正在准备招标文件,并与世界其他企业合作组建投标联合体。投标联合体中会包括巴西当地企业以及其他外方企业。但他未进一步透露其他外方企业名单。

  铁道部运输局综合部主任李军在7月28日“中国高速铁路发展成就暨第七届世界高速铁路大会新闻发布会”会后接受记者独家采访时表示,由于巴西高铁项目的运营模式与之前在其他国家的运营模式不同,中方还将对巴西政府提出的合作方案和相关运营政策进行论证。

  他还称,此项目不存在任何技术标准的问题,中国具有成套设置,运营管理,装备施工同时在工期和成本上的优势。中国铁道部已经成立中巴境外合作项目协调组,组织国内企业开拓境外铁路工程承包和装备出口市场。

  他还表示,一起参与竞标的还有欧洲和韩国政府及企业,其中现阶段韩国方面最为积极。


中国和阿根廷13日签署了100亿美元的铁路合作协议

未来2-5年内,阿根廷将从中国购买包括铁路技术以及相关电力设施等,以用于10个铁路项目,其中包括首都布宜诺斯艾利斯一个耗资25亿美元的铁路项目,而阿根廷政府则需要从中国北车和中国南车购买相关设备和技术。



  


泰国将研究泰国、老挝、中国铁路计划


据泰国《世界日报》7月29日报道,泰国交通部副部长索察表示,中国有意援助建设连接泰国、老挝及中国的高速铁路,同时延长到泰国南部与马来西亚接轨。泰国将有总理秘书郭萨出任委员会主席,负责研究三国铁路项目。

  索察说,中国有意投资泰国铁路项目,修建高速铁路连接泰国、老挝、中国,不过具体项目细节还需要进一步谈判。

  索察说,交通部也有意修建高速铁路,因此要求铁路局研究细节,可能会参考中国的建议,使用统一的铁轨规格。而且中国提出的项目不影响交通部之前拟定价值1,700亿铢的铁路项目。

  总理办公室新闻发言人素帕猜表示,内阁会议设立特别委员会,负责研究高速铁路项目,使用统一铁轨规格,构建新加坡、马来西亚、老挝及中国铁路网,以及曼谷至罗勇的高速铁路。

  中国将为这条长达250公里的铁路系统提供建设资金﹐而泰国政府将会出资购买所需土地。

  副总理素贴于7月16-23日访问中国,双方讨论合作发展高速铁路项目,中国还有意加大进口泰国大米,加深旅游合作等。近期总理阿披实也将出访中国。




南车放弃竞标沙特高铁项目 北车或将中标


7月14日讯据英国《金融时报》报道,中国南车在最后时刻放弃了沙特阿拉伯麦加到麦地那高铁项目的列车供应合同。
  报导称,南车表示这一决定归咎于严酷的沙漠环境等技术因素,但表示仍将致力于在海外迅速扩张。
  中国众多企业参与了这场竞标,其中中国铁建去年赢得该项目一期建造合同。而中国北车在3月份发布消息称,其中标了沙特朝觐铁路一期18.06公里的项目,并已生产出样车。
  中国此前在这项竞标中优势明显,国际传统铁路列车巨头西门子在3月份宣布放弃其与沙特本拉登集团(Saudi Binladin Group)组成财团进行的投标,转而加入由中国南车牵头的一个财团,一起竞标该项目的二期合同。报导称,该财团还包括中国铁建与北京铁路局,西门子将提供信号及电气化设备。
  《金融时报》的报导称,尽管南车放弃了竞标,但中国的另一家国有企业——北车中标将是指日可待的事情。
   然而记者从接近事件人士处了解,北车并没有参加此项竞标,得标一说也无从谈起。


华为获澳大利亚铁路GSM-R合同

2010-01-08 16:31出处:网易作者:佚名【我要评论(0)】 [导读]1月8日消息,华为今日宣布,澳大利亚最大的铁路工程公司UGL在其承包的新南威尔士州铁路项目中,选择华为独家部署端到端的GSM-R网络。
  1月8日消息,华为今日宣布,澳大利亚最大的铁路工程公司UGL在其承包的新南威尔士州铁路项目中,选择华为独家部署端到端的GSM-R网络。

  据悉,华为将采用分布式基站部署GSM-R系统,覆盖澳大利亚铁路公司RailCorp横穿悉尼地区的700多公里的铁路,解决了澳洲铁路复杂场景的覆盖难题。

  华为澳大利亚首席技术官 Peter Rossi表示:“华为创新而灵活的GSM-R铁路无线通信解决方案在中国广袤复杂的铁路网上获得了充分的验证,完全能够适应澳大利亚长隧道、远距离、高话务量的各种复杂场景,为RailCorp的铁路运营提供更安全、更可靠的通信、管制保障。”

  2009年4月,华为成功交付了中国首条铁路客运专线——石太线的GSM-R网络。石太线全长约190公里,列车最高运行时速可达250公里,途中穿越亚洲最长的隧道——长达28公里的太行山双洞隧道。华为的GSM-R解决方案确保了列车在不同隧道、桥梁之间通信时的顺畅切换,同时解决了超长隧道内无线网络覆盖等难题。



中国中铁在委内瑞拉获75亿美元铁路建设总承包合同
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新华网北京8月17日电(记者齐中熙)中国中铁股份有限公司近日获得委内瑞拉国家铁路局一铁路设计总承包合同,合同金额高达75亿美元。这项合同是迄今为止委内瑞拉在非石油领域签署的金额最高的一项合同,也是中国企业在国际建筑市场签订的世界上最大的铁路建设总承包合同。
此次签约的是委内瑞拉国家铁路网建设中的北部平原铁路系统迪纳高―阿纳高段,线路总长度为471.5公里,横贯委内瑞拉北部科赫德斯、瓜里科、阿拉瓜和安索阿特吉四个州,设计为双线电气化,运营时速220公里,施工工期40个月,预计2012年完工。
据悉,这项工程的开工建设,有望为委内瑞拉创造1000个直接就业岗位和5400个间接就业岗位,铁路建成后每年可运送580**次乘客和980万吨货物。工程完工后将与其他铁路线形成网络,对委内瑞拉的经济建设和社会发展将会起到重要推动作用。 中国中铁副总裁白中仁介绍,目前签订的迪纳高―阿纳高段471.5公里铁路总承包合同仅是委内瑞拉国家铁路网建设项目的一部分。根据委内瑞拉国家铁路网规划,要在2030年建设13000公里的铁路。中国中铁作为中委两国铁路项目合作的中方执行单位,将在实施迪纳高―阿纳高段铁路建设项目的同时,继续与委内瑞拉国家铁路局开展合作,优质、高效地执行好中委两国的铁路合作协议。

srpostiga
2010-10-28, 02:08 AM
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Poland and other countries want China to participate in the cooperation of its high-speed rail project

According to "Global Entrepreneur" reported: At present, Poland, the United States, Russia, Brazil, Saudi Arabia and other countries have clearly expressed the hope that China's participation in the high-speed railway projects in China. Contract by the China Railway Engineering Corporation Medina Division of Venezuela - Anaco high-speed rail project is being implemented as planned, contracted by the China Railway Construction Corporation, Ankara, Turkey - Istanbul high-speed rail project has entered the implementation stage.
"Global Entrepreneur" informed of the latest news is that the Chinese Ministry of Railways has been with General Electric and the U.S. government reached a preliminary agreement in California, and CSR will be a joint venture of General Electric, for one in California offers high-Rail related technology and equipment. This article from San Francisco to Los Angeles and then to high-speed rail line in Anaheim, full 465 miles, planned and put into use in 2020. California High Speed Rail Authority is planning to invest 43 billion U.S. dollars for this.
China Railway Construction in conjunction with other companies bid for the Brazilian railway network high-speed rail
2010-07-30 10:38:52 Source: Securities Network Views: 14 User Reviews 0】 【Securities Network (reporter Zhou Li & Wu Jing) July 28, the Chinese Ministry of Railways, Director of International Cooperation Department, Huang Heping told telephone interview, said that the Government of Brazil Brazil 10 days before the official public high-speed rail tender documents, tender of the project period is December 2010. China Ministry of Railways jointly by the railway construction in China, one of the largest - China Railway Construction (601186.SH, 01186.HK) to bid the project. He further said that at present China Railway Construction is preparing tender documents and set up business cooperation with the rest of the world bidding consortium.
China Railway Construction in Brazil in conjunction with other companies bid for high-speed rail

【Network】 Securities (reporter Zhou Li & Wu Jing) July 28, the Chinese Ministry of Railways, the Director of International Cooperation Department, Huang Heping telephone interview, said the Brazilian government officially open in Brazil in 10 high-speed rail tender documents, the project tender period of December 2010. China Ministry of Railways jointly by the railway construction in China, one of the largest - China Railway Construction (601186.SH, 01186.HK) to bid the project.

He further said that at present China Railway Construction is preparing tender documents and set up business cooperation with the rest of the world bidding consortium. Bidding consortium will include local businesses in Brazil and other foreign companies. But he did not further disclose the list of other foreign companies.

Integrated Department of Transportation Director Li Jun on July 28, "cum-development achievements of China Railway High-speed rail Seventh World Conference press conference," an exclusive interview to reporters after the meeting, said high-speed rail projects in Brazil and the operating mode Before the operation mode in other countries is different from the Chinese side will also be on the cooperation of the Brazilian Government programs and policies related to operational demonstration.

He also said that this project does not issue any technical standards, China has a complete set, operations management, equipment, construction on both the duration and cost advantages. Pakistan has been set up outside the Chinese Ministry of Railways Cooperation Project Coordination Unit, the organization of domestic enterprises to explore overseas railway engineering contracting and equipment export market.

He also said that with the bid along with Europe and the South Korean government and enterprises, including South Korea at this stage is most active.

13, China and Argentina signed a 100 billion railway cooperation agreement
The next 2-5 years, including Argentina, from China to buy railway technology and related power facilities to be used for 10 railway projects, including a cost of capital, Buenos Aires 2.5 billion railway project, the Government of Argentina you need from China North China South Locomotive to purchase vehicles and related equipment and technology.




Thailand to study in Thailand, Laos, China rail project

According to Thailand "World News" on July 29 reported that the Thai Deputy Minister of Suocha said that China intended to aid construction of connecting Thailand, Laos and China's high-speed railway, extending to southern Thailand and Malaysia practice. Thai Prime Minister will be appointed Chairman of the Committee Secretary Guo Samoa to study the three railway projects.

Suocha said China interested in investing in Thailand railway project, the construction of high-speed railway connecting Thailand, Laos, China, but the details of specific projects need to be further negotiations.

Suocha said, the Ministry also intends to build high-speed railway, the Railway Administration on the details required, you may refer to the Chinese proposal, the use of single track specifications. Moreover, China's Ministry of Communications prior to the project does not affect the value of 1,700 million baht proposed rail project.

Supachai said the spokesman for Prime Minister's Office, Cabinet set up a special committee to study the high-speed railway project, the use of unified specifications of the tracks, build Singapore, Malaysia, Laos and China's railway network, as well as high-speed railway from Bangkok to Rayong.

China will this 250-km rail system construction funds, while the Thai government will fund the purchase of land needed.

Deputy Prime Minister affixed to visit China July 16-23, the two sides discussed cooperation in the development of high-speed railway project, China also intends to increase the import of Thai rice to enhance tourism cooperation. Recent Abhisit will visit China.



CSR bid for Saudi Arabia to give up cars or high-speed rail project will be successful North

July 14 hearing, according to British "Financial Times" reported that China South Locomotive at the last minute to give Saudi Arabia Mecca to Medina High Speed Rail project train supply contract.
Reported that the CSR said that the decision to blame the harsh desert environment and other technical factors, but that remains committed to rapid expansion overseas.
Many enterprises in China involved in this bid, which won last year, China Railway Construction of the project a construction contract. The CNR in the March news release, which marked a pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia a 18.06 km rail project, and has produced prototypes.
China had obvious advantages in this bid, the international conventional rail trains giant Siemens announced in March to give up their with the Saudi Bin Laden Group (Saudi Binladin Group) to form a consortium to bid in favor of accession by China South Locomotive and led a consortium Phase II of the project with the contract bid. Reported that the consortium includes China Railway Construction Corporation and the Beijing Railway Bureau, Siemens will provide the signals and electrification equipment.
"Financial Times" reported that, although the CSR to give up the bid, China's other state-owned enterprises - North car just around the corner things will be successful.
However, those journalists at the event from close to the understanding, the North did not participate in the bidding vehicle, the winning one that could take place.
Huawei GSM-R by the Australian Rail Contract
2010-01-08 16:31 Source: NetEase Author: Anonymous 【I want to comment (0)】 [REVIEW] January 8 news, Huawei today announced that Australia's largest railway engineering contracting company UGL, in its New South Wales rail project, has selected Huawei to deploy the exclusive end of the GSM-R network.
January 8 news, Huawei today announced that Australia's largest railway engineering contracting company UGL, in its New South Wales rail project, has selected Huawei to deploy the exclusive end of the GSM-R network.

It is reported that Huawei's distributed base station will be used to deploy GSM-R system, covering Australia, Sydney Railway Corporation RailCorp across more than 700 kilometers of railway, to solve complex scenes coverage of the Australian rail problems.

Peter Rossi, chief technology officer of Huawei Australia said: "Huawei's innovative and flexible GSM-R railway radio communication solutions in China, the vast complexity of the railway line to obtain a sufficiently validated, fully able to adapt to the Australian long tunnel, long distance, high-traffic a variety of complex scenes, for RailCorp's rail operators to provide a more secure, more reliable communication, control protection. "

April 2009, Huawei successfully delivered China's first passenger railway line - Taiyuan line GSM-R network. Shi-Tai line length of approximately 190 km, the train can reach the maximum operating speed of 250 km, on the way through the longest tunnel in Asia - up to 28 kilometers of double holes Taihang tunnel. Huawei's GSM-R solution to ensure that the train in different tunnels, bridges and smooth communication between the switch, while addressing the long tunnel and other problems within the wireless network coverage.

China Railway 7.5 billion dollars in Venezuela for railway construction by the general contract
August 17, 2009 18:15:04 Source: Xinhua
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Xinhua Beijing Aug. 17 (Xinhua Qi Zhongxi) China Railway Group Limited recently received a State Railway of Venezuela, the total railway design contract, the contract amount up to 75 billion U.S. dollars. The contract is by far the non-oil sector in Venezuela signed a contract maximum amount, but also Chinese enterprises in the international construction market, signed the world's largest railway construction in the total contract.
The signing of the Venezuelan national railway network construction in the railway system in the northern plains of Medina High - Ana High paragraph, line the total length of 471.5 kilometers, running through northern Venezuela Cojedes, Guarico, Aragua and security soa Chatterjee four states, is designed to double electrification, operation speed of 220 km, 40 months construction period is expected to be completed in 2012.
It is reported that construction of the project, Venezuela is expected to create 1,000 direct jobs and 5,400 indirect jobs, a year after completion of the railway can transport 580 passengers and 980 times ** tons of cargo. After completion of the formation of networks with other railway lines, to Venezuela's economic and social development will play an important role in promoting. Baizhong Ren, vice president of China Railway, currently signed Medina High - Ana High Section 471.5 km railway total contract is only the national railway network construction in Venezuela, part of the project. According to Venezuela's national railway network to 13,000 kilometers in 2030, the railway construction. China Railway as a railway project in cooperation between the two countries the Chinese unit of execution in the implementation of the Medina High - Ana High section of the rail construction projects while continuing with the State Railway of Venezuela, cooperation, quality and efficient implementation of the well-Venezuela railway cooperation agreement between the two countries.